When I spoke to him about being on the podcast, he promised, unprompted, not to over-promote Hubspot and said, "I won't even mention it at all if you'd like. We can stick to ideas and concepts."
But I'm committed to bringing you real talk from real experts in the economic development field, and Tom's a Hubspot expert. Plus -- I've used Hubspot in the past and have had great success with it. So we talked about it and economic development marketing in general. Enjoy the show.
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